Just at the moment when Red Star are looking for a goalscorer to put away all those chances we have been creating, a big thank you goes out to those µ%§!§§ responsible for the arrival and departure of the great Tony Cascarino. Okay, so he may not have been totally "Irish", but what the hell, he will always be a great GOALSCORER. Exactly what Red Star are missing at the moment. No further comment required. |
TONY (cont.). Tony has revealed, in a soon-to-be-released book that
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DESPERATLEY SEEKING GOALSCORER. Rumours abound that Red Star are on the verge of signing a defender and a striker. COUPE DE LA LIGUE (1st round)
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THREE POINT LEAD. Poissy cut Red Stars' lead in the CFA 2 to three points, 25 to Red Stars' 28. Ivry are third with 23pts following a 2-0 win at Blénod. Other results : Evry – Moissy-Cramayel 1-1, Châlons – Chaumont 2-4, Chantilly – Paris SG 1-4, Créteil – Senlis 0-0 , Tinqueux – Toul 1-2. No match next weekend, next match will be at Toul on 11th November. |
NATIONAL. Slowly but surely, the National starts to take a definite shape. Istres appeart to be on course for D2 unbeaten and with only five goals against; Grenoble (2nd), Amiens (3rd), Clermont (4th) and GFCO Ajaccio (5th) are hanging in there and are opening up a gap over Brest, Racing and Reims who are now seven points behind. In the middle, eight teams are separated by five points, from Valence with 19 points to Louhans-Cuiseaux at 14. At the wrong end, the same four are locked in a battle - Pacy (12 pts), Pau (11 pts), Red Star (9 pts) and Thouars (8 pts). |
VALENCE BOUND. The team depart this morning in TGV for Valence, where a training session has been lined up on arrival. They return on Sunday morning, also by TGV. The team line up as follows : Branger – Perron – Natchimie – Saxemard – Busuttil – Saragaglia – Ferhaoui (cap.) Aïchour – Serreau – Saci – Van Kets. Subs : Thiam, Milton & Randget. |
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COUPE DE FRANCE. Red Star 93 – Noisy-le-Sec will be the first time that the two sides have met in the competition. and Red Star will be out for revenge after taking a beating earlier in the season at the Stade Allende. |
BONJOUR NOISY. Olympic Judo champion Séverine Vandenhende did |
This evening Red Star will know the name of their next opponents in the French Cup. The next round will take place on the weekend of the 4th/5th of November. Tonights' draw will be made by Séverine Vandenhende, who won a gold in the judo competition at the Sydeney Olympics, in the under 63kg category. Other than Créteil (D2) and Paris SG (D1) who will make their entries later in the competition, twenty two Paris clubs go into the hat for the sixth round draw. |
SACI NATURALISED. Hakim Saci now has a French passport, which will allow Red Star 93 to recruit oustde of the European Community. |
OK, so it wasn't done in style, but at least Red Star got past the Poisst obstacle. In the cup, only qualification is important. It wasn't easy (see the match report), just ask Alès or Dijon, two clubs in a better position in the National than us and eliminated at this stage of the cup already this year. A stepping stone for next Saturdays' tough fixture at Valence ? |
ECHOS SERREAU BACK WITH A BANG. Discarded by Jacky Lemée, Mickaël Serreau came on as a substitue for Laurent Castro on the hour and proved his former coach wrong by turning on a stunning display, effectively making the difference between qualification and elimination. As well as causing havoc in a tiring Poissy defence, he supplied teh cross from which Yoann Rangdet scored the second goal. |
Tomorrow afternoon, at Poissy, Red Star are back in cup action. The Coupe de France is the cornerstone upon which the Red Star legend is based - five previous cup wins. Last seasons' cup run lingers on in the memory, the win over Le Havre and the undeserved, last-gasp defeat against Olympique Lyonnais with Anderson, Vairelles etc. In order to get that far, Red Star had to battle hard against sides from lower leagues; remember Villepinte, the debut, and the gaping, wide-open goal with five minutes to go and the score at 1-1 and the poor Villepinte striker who missed the ball completely. So, caution is the byword on Saturday, Poissy play in the CFA 2 - just ask Christophe Fiatte what he thinks about the standards of the play and the players of Eric Dewilder. |
TURNING POINT ? The championship lets the Coupe de France take center stage this weekend, as Red Star travel to Poissy in the western Paris suburbs. Next week an awkward trip to Valence, but for now a tough battle in store. RESULT. You can have the score and a bried report of the game - write to : redstar189@aol.com BRAHIM THIAM SUSPENDED. The booking inflicted on Brahim Thiam at Dijon means that he will miss the match, as will Saragaglia. Poissy likewise will be without the suspended Dave Meunier and striker Raddas. Girard could use the game to give outings to Serreau and/or Tacalfred.
STADE DE POISSY. In case you want to make the trip, the address of the Stade de Poissy is: 8, rue du Stade, Poissy. Referee is Didier Goulard, kick off 6pm CET. UNDER 15S : RED STAR 93 – AVION, Saturday 21st October 4pm CET, Ile des Vannes |
THE TRUTH SOMETIMES HURTS Yesterday in the Seine Saint-Denis edition of Le PARISIEN, Bruno Mallet and Stéphane Corby summarized the start of the season for the two clubs in the region, Noisy-le-Sec and Red Star 93. Here is a brief translation of the article. Red Star Inconsistent |
27 MAY 1978 AT POISSY, THE LAST RED STAR V POISSY Just over twenty two years ago, ont the 27th May 1978, sixteenth placed Poissy, third from bottom and already condemned to relegation welcomed third placed Red Star, out of the running for promotion following a defeat against Paris FC, but also condemned, the club in liquidation. Red Star FC was playing it's last match in D2, before being reborn under a new prsident, Jean-Claude Bras, as AS Red Star in the Division d'Honneur. In the first match of the season between the two clubs, Red Star won 3-1, despite the loss with a broken nose of goalkeeper Klimek as early as the third minute.
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TODAYS' QUESTION
Romain from Montreuil asks us the following question. "What happens if Red Star 93 are relegated to the CFA and the reserve team wins the CFA 2 ?" Firstly, despite lying in 19th place, we don't see the first team getting relegated. Whatever, this case would be a first for French football. In any way, Red Star 93 would only have one team, in the CFA. It is up to the players to avoid this catastrophie. |
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Six wins out of seven, one draw, what more can one ask from the reserves ? For his first season in charge at this level, Christophe Fiatte for the moment is making an impression on the ranks of coaches. Don't forget that last season, his first ever as a coach, he took the third team from the DHR to the DSR. At Chaumont, the young striker Jolibois carried out his job perfectly, stepping up into the boots of Gérald Milton, absent on first team duty. Jolibois scored twice, the third goal comin from a Serreau penalty. |
IN A WORD.. "TREASON" The word is the word of Jean-Luc Girard at half time on Saturday evening. Event though the reds had procured two good chances in the fourteenth and thiry-first minutes, Brest could have just as easily have been four up by the break instead of two. However, Castros' goal on the hour and the introduction of the youngsters Natchimie, Randget and Milton gave fresh impetus to Red Star, enabling them to dig out an improbable 2-2 draw, unlikely given how they performed for two thirds of the encounter. |
Pissed off, by half time, the home supporters were once again fed a diet of appalling rubbish by their "heros". No-one could really see how Red Star were going to get anything out of this one. A lack of combativity, and a disgraceful abuse of the shirt were the terms most often used by the suffering faithful. Girard must have given a real bollocking during the half-time. On their return from the dressing rooms, many bowed their heads in shame. It took a good quarter of an hour for then to lift themselves a little. Just a the moment coach Girard wanted to take off Castro, the latter scored from a superb free kick to give a glimmer of hope. The Bretons have given up travelling to away games, it seems, as only a dozen had bothered, but nonetheless they still managed to make more noise than the home side. Anxious moment, in the 65th minute as Brest defender Serge Le Guen went down injured just by the touchline. Rushing on with the stretcher was our man Valck, stretcher-bearer for the day. Ben Mabrouck, took his place as assistant boss for the first time alongside coach Girard. Scorers, first of the season for Castro, second for Saci. The list is as follows : Van Kets (4), Saci (2), Abda, Castro, Faye, Ouejdide, Randget and Thiam (1) |
CHAUMONT – REDSTAR 93 1-3. Fiattes' boys have done it again, despite the absences on first team duty of Natchimie, Rangdet and Milton. Red Star continue to dominate group B of the CFA 2. On Saturday evening, Chaumont went down at home 3-1 to our reserves. More on this tomorrow, but we can tell you that Red Star 93 have 26 points and are five points ahead of second placed Poissy, winners over Senlis 2-1. Poissy are of course next weeks' cup opponents. Other results : Toul – Créteil 1-0, Chantilly – Evry 3-3, Moissy-Cramayel – Tinqueux 1-1, Ivry – Saint-Dizier 3-0.
DSR : RED STAR 93 – SARCELLES : 4-0
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UNDER 15'S : RED STAR 93 – CHANTILLY : 7-0
KASTENDEUCH. 600th professional match for ex-Red Star hero Sylvain Kastendeuch. 566 in D1 and 34 in D2, with Red Star 93 (season 84-85). Incidentally, just by himself Sylvain has played as many matches in D1 as Red Star have in all their 103-year history ! Photo: Sylvain Kastendeuch, in the colours of Metz in 1986, alongside Philippe Hinschberger (Louhans-Cuiseaux coach) and Carlos Lopez.
FIRST FOR FOUSSENI DIAWARA. First outing of the season with the first XI of Saint-Etienne of the ex-Red Star player, against Sedan (lost 1-2)
STEPHANE CRUCET. In the space of four days, Stéphane Crucet has scored two exceptional goals for his new club Sochaux, against Nancy and Gueugnon, helping to send his team to the top of D2.
LORIENT IN FORM. Lorient won again, 2-1 at Cannes 2-1. Red Stars' League Cup opponents will be at Marville on the 1st November, kick-off 6pm CET.
Updated 12th October GUTLESS - LAST NIGHTS' PERFORMANCE. Our correspondant in Pau last night telephoned us on numerous occasions with developments in the match. Details of the game will appear tomorrow on the site, together with the line-ups, stats etc etc. Updated 11th October THIS EVENING. After tonights' match we will be able to see if Red Star are back on the road to recovery.
EDDY CAPRON. For the record, the first ever goalscorer at Sedans' new stadium is Eddy Capron, who played for Red Star from 1985 until 1988 bfore leaving Paris for Nantes then Rennes. A few teething troubles with the new installations - floodlight failure as well as the ball exploding ! The score finished at 2-1 in favour of Sedan. Updated 10th October SUSPENSION. Brahim Thiam was the recipent of a yellow card at Dijon, which means that he will be suspended for the Coupe de France game. PIZZO AND OPONGA. A contracture for the first, a knee injury for the latter and the two will be out for the trip to Pau.
Pau the better of the two sides during the first period, but Red Star appeared to be reasonably well organized, and resisted the assaults until the 37th minute, when striker Christian Avezac outpaced two defenders and slotted the ball into the net past Jean-Marc Branger.
After the half-time bollocking, Red Star came more into the game, without making any impact on the score. Right at the end, Red Star conceded a penalty, transformed by Gérald Fournel. Often caught in offside positions, as they were at Dijon, Red Star wasted no end of opportunities. So, a long trip back with six defeats in twelve games, and more importantly, big problems for the rest of the season.
COUPE DE FRANCE. The draw hasn't done Red Star any favours at all, with an awkward trip to Poissy, a side noted for playing attractive open football under coach Eric Dewilder. Red Stars' reserves were lucky to scrape a draw 1-1 earlier in the season against Poissy in the CFA 2. The match will take place on Saturday 21st October at Poissy. Other cup ties featuring Paris clubs are :
Montereau (DHR) - Mantois (DH), Brétigny (DHR) - Noisy-le-Sec (N), UJA Alfortville (DSR) - Ivry (CFA 2), Sarcelles (DSR) - Evry (CFA 2), Trappes (PH) – Viry-Châtillon (CFA), Ermont (DH) - Colombienne (DH), Port. Draveil (Exc) - Entente (CFA 2), ACBB (Exc) - Savigny (DHR), Palaiseau (PH) - Versailles (DH), St-Leu (DHR) - Saint-Denis (DH), Paris FC (CFA) - Chelles (PH), Antony (PH) - Porcheville (DHR), Courbevoie (PH) - Villemomble (DH), Les Lilas (CFA) - Arménienne (DH), Racing CP (N) - Lusitanos Saint-Maur (CFA), Joinville (PH) - Levallois (CFA), PTT Paris (PH) - Orly (DHR), Sainte-Geneviève (DSR) - Le Mée (DH), Fleury (PH) - Vaires (Exc), Basse-Seine (Exc) - Montreuil (DSR), Ozoir (PH) - Aubervilliers (CFA 2).
ERIC PANDO. Reserve team defender has signed Ravenne in Italys' division two, and will be loaned out in order to gain experience of Italian football to a club in the Italian C1, equivalent of the National.
UNDER 15S. A trip to Nancy on Sunday 15th October, kick off 3pm CET at the Stade Marcel Picot.
At the foot of the Pyrénées, Kader Ferhaoui & co have an opportunity to finally get their season (part two) underway with a game against a Pau side also experiencing some difficulties. For the trip, Jean-Luc Girard, assisted by Alim Ben Mabrouck will be without Rudy Perron (foot injury) as well as Laurent Castro. Robert Gomis and Dambou Traoré are once again available after suspension. The players leave this morning, by plane, and will return Thursday morning.
GUILHERMO MAURICIO. Former Audonien Guilhermo Mauricio, who has scored four goals so far this season has the pleasure of seeing his team Laval sitting on top of division two after thirteen games played. Will the Lavallois climb back into the top flight after a twelve year absence ? Back in 1976 Laval hit the big time on the first occasion, at the detriment of Red Star. Laval pipped Red Star for promotion during the end-of-season play-off games.
ANTHONY SIRUFO. Anthony has left Red Star 93. He arrived midway through last season, and took part in the great cup runs. He is now playing in Switzerland.
COUPE DE PARIS. Red Stars' third team have qualified for the next round, eliminating Cachan 2-1.
BAUER. Stade Bauer is currently being used for the training ground of the Reserves and the Under-17's. This enables the pitch at the Ile des Vannes to be rested. This weekend sees matches on Saturday at 3pm CET when second placed Red Star 93 Under 15's take on fourth placed Chantilly and on Sunday Red Star Third XI play Sarcelles in the DSR (3-30pm CET).
A LITTLE LIGHT READING. At the moment, this site consists of 265 pages in French, 204 in English and no less than 798 images ! Impressive, uh ? We're still number one for news of Red Star !
ADIEU EMILE ALBEAU. Sedan will unveil their new stadium, the Stade Louis Dugauguez, named after a former Sedan coach as well as being the national team coach. Red Star 93 will remember their unlikely League Cup win back in February this year at the old Stade Emile Albeau, when they beat their hosts 1-0 in televised game. Also in the series of famous old grounds closing their gates is of course Wembley stadium in London. On this site we'll be bringing you a feature on Wembley, with a close look at Red Star players who have trodden the famous turf. Who knows, one day we may even bring you a feature on the new Stade Bauer !
COLEMANBALLS. Not us, for once, but the official site of Red Star 93 (don't bother, it's not worth the visit !). In more or less ripping off Le Parisien, the site have reported that Saturdays' referee was M. Chat, instead of M. Castro as we correctly identified. We're still number one for the news on Red Star IN TWO LANGUAGES !!!
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LE MAUX. The contract of Guénaël Le Maux has been cancelled at the end of last week, and more departures are expected. Thus three "new recruits" have quit the club - Cascarino, Girardot and now Le Maux.
COUPE DE FRANCE. This evening, the draw for the next round of the Coupe de France will take place. The fifth tound will include the National clubs, and will take place on the 22nd and 23rd October. Red Stars' opponents will be from the Paris region, as the draw at this stage is regionalised - take your pick from :
ESSONNE : Viry-Châtillon (CFA), Evry (CFA 2), Sainte-Geneviève (DSR), Brétigny (DHR), Savigny (DHR), Fleury-Mérogis (PH), Palaiseau (PH), Portugais Draveil (Excellence). HAUTS-DE-SEINE : Racing CP (National), Levallois (CFA), Arménienne (DH), Colombienne (DH), Courbevoie (PH), Antony (PH), ACBB (Excellence). SEINE-SAINT-DENIS : Noisy-le-Sec (National), Les Lilas (CFA), Aubervilliers (CFA 2), Saint-Denis (DH), Villemomble (DH), RSC Montreuil (DSR). YVELINES : Poissy (CFA 2), Versailles (DH), Mantois (DH), Porcheville (DHR), Trappes (PH), Basse-Seine (Excellence). SEINE-ET-MARNE : Le Mée (DH), Montereau (DHR), Chelles (PH), Ozoir-la-Ferrière (PH), Vaires (Excellence). VAL-DE-MARNE : Saint-Maur Lusitanos (CFA), Ivry (CFA 2), UJA Alfortville (DSR), Orly (DHR), Joinville (PH). VAL D'OISE : Entente Sannois - Saint-Gratien (CFA 2), Ermont (DH), Sarcelles (DSR), Saint-Leu (DHR). PARIS : Paris FC (CFA), PTT Paris (PH).
Nîmes | Angers | |
Red Star 93 (N) | Lorient | |
Louhans-Cuiseaux (N) | Créteil | |
Amiens (N) | Le Mans | |
Nancy | Sochaux | |
Valence (N) | Beauvais | |
Martigues | Châteauroux | |
Le Havre | Laval | |
Cannes | Montpellier | |
Wasquehal | Caen |
Gueugnon, last years' winner, Niort, Ajaccio and Nice receive byes to the next round.
ALSO THIS WEEKEND. A double-header at the Ile des Vannes on Sunday: at 2pm CET the under 17's play Saint-Dizier then at 4pm CET Th under 15's take on Lens. Admission for this feat of football is totally free.
DSR: Red Star thirds are at Cachan (Stade Léo Lagrange), at 2-30pm CET for the Coupe de Paris.
District - Stade de La Motte, Bobigny, Red Star 93 – Paris Gael (3-30pm CET).
Updated 5th October INTERNAL SOULTION. Only the future can tell, but the decision to install Jean-Luc Girard in temporary charge of Red Star 93 in probably for the best.
Updated 4th October JACKY GETS THE BOOT. Jacky Lemée, coach of Red Star for just two months, has been "relieved of his functions" as coach of Red Star 93, it was announced, yesterday. In charge for two months, a period which has seen the miserable return of one win and seven points in ten games, and the Red Star lurch into the danger zone. He will be replaced for the moment by his assistant, the popular Jean-Luc Girard. First task for the "new" man is an onerous trip to Dijon. DIVISION SUPERIEURE REGIONALE. RED STAR - PARIS SG: 1-1 (1-0). Goals: Red Star - Malfleury (30) ; Paris SG : El Kouraichi (75). A tough baptism in a higher league for Red Star third eleven, coached by Bruno Ducic. Updated 3rd October GUESTS. Present at Saturday nights' fiasco were ex-Red Star players Dantheny, Rodighiero and Massard as well as Souleymane Yali, a very rare visitor to the club these days. Souleymane played in the green shirt for five seasons, before moving on to Ivry. Today, his football consists of kick-arounds with family & friends.
Gigi thus finds himself once again at the reins during a difficult spell. It has to be said that things are in a perilous state, since mid-July, with the last-minute replacement of Pierre Repellini by Jacky Lemée with just two weeks to go before the big kick-off. Having only just taken his jacket off, Jacky Lemée pushed Tony Cascarino into retirement, depsite the fact that Tony had been recruited as a key piece of the new set-up. Then followed more departures, players cast aside, and new arrivals, with the only result being the horrendous position that Red Star now find themselves in. Whatever, now let's forget the unpleasant past and get on with the future.
The advantage of Jean-Luc Girard is that he knows the set-up at Red Star, having represented the club in one form or another for fifteen years, as well as a tactical approach prefereable to the players. Also, the players must take responsibility and try and repair some of the damage done during the Lemée era.
Another sign for Jean-Luc is that he takes over just before a trip to Dijon, hometown of Christophe Fiatte, his best friend and who is now in charge of the reserves in the CFA 2 (to an astonishing level of success for the moment, it must be said). Anyway, our best wishes go to this popular and likeable man, and all the best for the future.
NEWS FROM AFAR. With the announcement of the arrival of Jean-Luc Girard as coach, we received two messages from supporters in far-flung places. Firstly, Jean-Noël in Vietnam said Good news ! Best wishes for this new season, and thanks once again for the well-received news here at the other side of the world."
Olivier in Hungary write and said "Thanks you for this precious information, you wouldn't believe how happy we were here in Hungary to receive the good news about my beloved club."
LEAGUE CUP. Once again Red Star have been drawn against D2 club Lorient. The match is set for Wednesday 1st November at the Stade Marville, kick off 8pm CET. Lorient are currently sixth on D2, following a 1-1 draw last Saturday against Sochaux.
CFA 2. On Saturday, the reserves hav a friendly against the reserves of Sedan
CHERRY PICKERS. The current malaise of so-called "agents" plundering the best young players from French clubs continues, with the news that two players from Red Stars' under-17's have been signed by Juventus in Italy. Red Star are in no way reimbursed for having coached these youngsters. About time the European law was changed to protect the small clubs.
A RED UNDER THE BED. Recently we noticed that the US military have been visiting the site - we suspect that the CIA have their eyes on, us, now that Fidel's long-lost cousin Laurent Castro is playing for us (not really - a joke !). We have news for them which will send their world-wide spider into overdrive - the match referee for the game at Dijon on Saturday will be Monsieur Alexandre Castro. Teacher by profession, from the Rhône-Alpes region, he has been a referee since 1985.
BRAVO. To Fabien, resident in the Nantes area, who correctly identified that Red Star have participated in eighteen Cup quarter finals, the answer to our little quiz the other day, and therefore wins the Centenary CD.
INTERVIEW WITH JEAN-CLAUDE BRAS IN THE PARISIEN. Jean-Claude Bras, president of Red Star 93 gave an interview with Stéphane Corby, which appeared in Saturdays' Seine-Saint-Denis edition of the paper. Here follows a translation of what he said.
"RED STAR continues the paradox. At the time when on the field results are calamitous, off the pitch the club has never been in a better state. Last Wednesday President Bras announced before the elected representative of the region and several future partners, that the club is to change its legal status from a sporting Association (non-profit making) to a limited company, and announced an ambitious project for the club. We asked him what the changes were all about.
Jean-Claude Bras : The club will change status to be a limited company, with new partners whom will be chosen by the administrative council of the club. With or without myself, there are serious propositions exisiting in order to develop a new Red Star project.
What are these projects ?
There are three aims. We wish to start the renovation of Stade Bauer at Saint-Ouen, to set up our youth development facilities, which will become regional, at Stade Marville and finally, when we are in Division One, to become a co-resident club at the Stade de France. This project should be moving before the end of this year.
There is a lot of talk concerning ex-League president Noël Le Graët taking over from you. What do you think of this ?
Noël is a friend who has given me useful advice and it appears that the Sports Minister, who has an interest in the future of the Stade de France had been impressed by the Red Star projects. I will simply remind you that contrary to Créteil and Racing, we were never candidates for the Stade de France (What ! - astonished ed). Results-wise, the first team is struggling.
Jacky Lemée, the coach, is he at risk ?
No, that is out of question. Indeed, the results are disappointing, but the team is getting better. We should take on board shortly two new players (Gilles Leclerc, ex-Sochaux sweeper has been mentioned - ed). There is no ultimatum hanging over the coach. We just have to get rid of the unlucky black cat which crosses our path".
CFA 2, RED STAR SOLID LEADER. Despite only drawing, the youngsters of Red Star consolidated their position as leader. Their main rivals stumbled, Moissy-Cramayel going tdown to promoted Châlons 1-0, Tinqueux lost at home to Chaumont 1-0 and Ivry at Créteil 1-0. Other results : Paris SG 2 Evry 0, Senlis 2 Toul Metz 1, Blénod – Auxerre 0-0, Saint-Dizier – Chantilly 2-1.
Red Star 93 have 22 pts, Moissy-Cramayel 18 pts, Tinqueux and Poissy 17 pts, Ivry 15 pts